Christ
is My Druid
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O'Dubhain
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This
was actually two workshops that were held a week apart. We attempted to
understand the import of St. Columba's
(Columcille's) remark,
"Christ is my
Druid."
Celtic Workshop #29 - "Christ is My Druid/Part
1"
We attempted to find a common thread among the religions and
Magicks of the Western Tradition. The apparently easy conversion of Druids to
early Christianity was our starting point. In seeking out the underlying
principles of Christian Magick,
I hoped to uncover the techniques we require to perform Draíocht!
********* 10/17/94
9:59 PM Forum CO *********
O'Dubhain: These are the words of one of the most revered
Saints in Celtic history. They are the words of St.
Columba of the clan Ui
Neil who established the Celtic
Church in Scotland.
These words inspired me to attempt tonight's Workshop. Before we begin, Hear
the words of the Filidh! Hear the words of the royal house of Ui
Neil! Hear the words of Columba of Iona,
Saint of God!
From the book of Druidry by Ross
Nichols, (Former Ard Druid of the OBOD):
"It is clear that Columcille identified the highest
he knew as the Druidic, identifying it with Christ whilst
repudiating superstitions:
'There is no "streod"
that can tell our fate nor bird upon the bough nor trunk of gnarled oak.. I
adore not the voices of birds nor Chance, nor the love of son or wife - my
Druid is Christ, the Son of God.'
O'Dubhain: . The words used are 'mo drui,
mac Dé' - 'my Druid, son of God' - which does not sound as though he
were contrasting the two but identifying them." My point here is that the
Druids actually looked forward to the coming of Christianity as it SHOULD HAVE
BEEN. A little background on St. Columba....
Columba was born into the family of the O'Neils,
the Kings of Ireland. He was the nephew and the uncle of a king and educated by
a Druid. He embraced the new God with many of his Druid and Filidh brothers AND
sisters. During the battle of Cuidremne (in Sligo) he
sided against Diarmud, the pagan Ard
Righ of Ireland.
As a result of the battle he was exiled to the Scottish Isle of Iona. This
island was a mixture of Druids, Culdean monks and priests. Iona
built this monastery (and former Druid grove) into a base for Christianizing
Western Scotland. This was done after proving his might in battle with still
more Druids (he dispelled their winds and brought light into a Magical
Darkness). Columba returned to Ireland
on only one occasion, to render a verdict at Drimceatt when Aedh, the new Ard
Righ, attempted to outlaw the Druid remnant
or Filidh (the Druidic Poets). Columba's stature was such that
his arguments for the poets saved their status and class from extinction.
O'Dubhain: Columba was
trained by a Druid and was not above using Druid magicks to further his
interests. In fact, he used them in overcoming the magicians of the Pictish
king, Brude. The early Christian saints engaged in many magical battles with
Magicians and Druids. St. Patrick
had many battles with the Druids of the Irish king .
O'Dubhain: Many of the Irish Druids
converted to Christianity easily because Christian beliefs and teachings of the
Celtic church were very similar to those that they espoused themselves. In
fact, the birth of Christ was an often repeated saga in Celtic
tradition. This is usually referred to as the Mabon/Modron cycle. There are
many similarities between the life of Christ, Finn, and
Cuchulainn. Each of these men has a mystical beginning. His mother is
impregnated by a "God" As a child he is hunted by those in authority.
He is also very precocious. There are many miracles and superhuman feats
associated with each of these men. Cuchulainn and Finn chose the path of the
Warrior while Christ chooses the path of the Priest. Each of
these men is Druidic in his knowledge and his ability to be surrounded by light
when working magic.
O'Dubhain: Speaking of magic, is this a
modern idea? What did the Celts of Old think about Christ and
his Magicks?
I call on Taliesin, greatest of Bards! Come to my aid! Speak
the Truth that is Eternal! Bear witness to the Magicks of Mabon:
Primary chief poet Am I to Elfin. And my native country
Is the place of the Summer Stars.
John the Divine called me
Merlin, but all future kings Shall call me Taliesin.
I was nine full months in the womb of the hag Ceridwen.
Before that I was Gwion, but now I am Taliesin.
I was with my king In the heavens when Lucifer fell into
the deepest hell.
I carried the banner Before Alexander.
I know the names of the stars from the North to the
South.
I was in Caer
Bedion Tetragammaton.
I accompanied Heon to the vale of Hebron.
I was in the canon when Absalom was slain.
I was in Llys Don before the birth of Gwydion.
I was patriarch to Elijah
and Enoch.
I was there at the crucifixion of the merciful Mabon.
I was the foreman at the construction of Nimrod's Tower.
I was three times In the prison of Arianrhod.
I was in the ark With Noah and Alpha.
I witnessed the destruction of Sodom
and Gomorra.
I was in Africa Before the building of Rome.
I came here To the remnant of Troy.
I was with the Lord In the manger of the ass.
I upheld Moses Through the water of Jordan.
I was in the sky (or, possibly, at the Cross) with Mary
Magdalene.
I received the muse From Ceridwen's Cauldron.
I was a harping bard To Deon of Lochlin. I have gone
hungry From the Maiden's Mabon.
I was at the White Mount in the court of Cynfelyn. In
stocks and fetters for a year and a day.
I was in the larder in the land of the Trinity.
And no one knows whether my body Is flesh or fish.
I was instructor to the whole universe.
I shall be until the judgment On the face of the earth.
I have sat in the perilous seat above Caer
Sidi.
I shall continue to revolve between the three elements.
There is not a marvel in the world which I cannot reveal.
O'Dubhain: This is the Translation of the "Hanes
Taliesin" from "Taliesin and the
Bardic Mysteries" by John Matthews.
These are the words of a 5th Century Druidic Bard. This work is not fake. This
is Truth. These are the words of a powerful spirit! This is no ordinary Bard or
Poet. This is Taliesin the greatest of all Bards. This is he who can see all of
time. This is he who knows the Greatest of Mysteries! The greatest of Bards has
acknowledged the Magicks of Mabon, of the Christed One, of the One that is
Always and Forever!
O'Dubhain: It is my point that Christ
was considered to be a Deity on a par with other Celtic Deities. The Druids
considered Him to be their Druid.
"The Basis of Christian
Magick"
O'Dubhain: What are we to make of this
revelation? Let me first quote from the works of the greatest Magician of this
age:
- "Do
what thou wilt is the whole of the law."
- "Love
is the law, love under will"
- "Every
man and woman is a star."
This is the basis of Magick as we currently know it. This
Magick works and is alive. Let us see what the laws of Christian
Magick are:
·
"Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all
thy heart and spirit."
·
"Do unto others as you would have others do
unto you."
·
"Love thy neighbor as thyself."
·
"Faith can move mountains."
Can anyone here see how these two different approaches are
actually talking about the same things?
Nancy
: Why OD, yes, I can see that. Simply approaching it from a different
perspective.
O'Dubhain: Nancy>
follow-up?
Nancy
: Yes, simply that there are some quotes that you might also find interesting
that illustrate the feminine ...I'm looking 'em up.. I'll beep you.
Boddhi : Love is attraction toward something mysterious,
unknown. faith: belief (attraction) for things unseen?
O'Dubhain: I believe that faith in a
magical sense is belief in "the Will".
O'Dubhain: It is the certainty of the Will
and the projection of one's Will that causes
Magick to happen. Boddhi... follow-up?
Boddhi : I agree. Focus of Will
is important for me too.
Shadow Walker:
Love is the foundation the force that joins that which has been seperated i.e.
man & woman Human & God .
O'Dubhain: I'd like to add that Love and
the dropping of barriers is what allows us as humans to more fully embrace our
TRUE WILL. The True Will was called the Holy Guardian Angel by the early
Thelemites.
Skylark: God & Shekinnah.
O'Dubhain: It is the conversation with one's
True Will or Holy Guardian Angel that is the most important stage in becoming a
Magician. This can be likened to opening up to the love of God/dess. Shadow Walker...
followup?
Shadow Walker:
I agree
Dave : OD, what qualifies you
to lead this forum?
Shadow Walker:
that the finding of ones calling or will is the most important aspect of a
magicians work to is the purpose of being!
O'Dubhain: Well, Dave, The management of the forum asked me
to lead this workshop about a year ago.... that's my job around here... do you
have a question?
Dave : Just questioning.
O'Dubhain: Shadow Walker>
Agreed! Dave> No problem.
Laura : It is very difficult
to discover one's True Will.
O'Dubhain: ok... Nancy
sorry Nancy
hold a minute
Nancy
: <g>
Shadow Walker:
another sip here would be nice.
O'Dubhain: Laura>
Yes... I agree... that is why becoming fully one's self and i.e. conversation
with the Holy Guardian Angel is so important. This experience reunites our
manifested being in this reality with our entire being on the higher planes and
allows us to consider our purpose and will completely. The small amount of our
being which is manifested in this plane cannot completely contemplate the
greater realities.
O'Dubhain: I mention this point of
similarity between Thelema and Christian
Magicks to illustrate one central point that
is common to Druids, Christ, Magick, Monks, and history. The
point or thread that connects them all is EGYPT!
ok... Nancy
Nancy
: ok, a few of the woman speaking here.....about the Christian
God (and magick) perhaps? My God, because
you are so Good, I love You With all my Heart...and for Your Sake, I love my
neighbor as myself. ok, OD>...I'm seein' this as a point of focus.....and
then also, from Sirach... I will praise thy name continually and sing thy
praise...my prayer will always be heard....and there, OD, focus. again..... I
have more<g> Teasin'.
O'Dubhain: Nancy, I agree that the first step toward
learning to work with the Greater Will is learning to reach out beyond one's
own self to others.
O'Dubhain: This is the lesson of Love. "Love is the
Law, Love Under Will"
Nancy : OD, I agree.
O'Dubhain: I'm sure that the Druids had a better way of
saying this but they didn't leave any written messages.
O'Dubhain: ok... Boddhi had a comment...
then Shadow Walker had two comments... then Boddhi had a question... whew!
Boddhi!
Boddhi : Is there a similarity between the Magi that taught Moses
and the Bards, the Old testament Prophets and the bards?
O'Dubhain: Boddhi that is my feeling. In my
opinion, since the Celts migrated all through the Mediterranean
from about 300 BCE and before, (Hyksos came through Egypt
around 13th century BCE....O'D - add-a-note!<G>)
Boddhi : All make beautiful music.
O'Dubhain: They are said to have
intermarried with the Hyksos of Egypt about the time of Moses.
In fact, I've seen one author suggest that Moses
was a "Hyksos" and not a Jew!
He went to live with the Midionites during his exile.
O'Dubhain: It is in the land of the
"Sea Peoples" that Moses learns his
magic and meets his god. The Celts/Hyksos did not pursue the fleeing Jews from Egypt.
In fact, they left and migrated toward Spain
at about the time of Ramses the Second.
O'Dubhain: These are the people that the
great Druid/Bard Amergin descended from. So I guess you could say that the
Egyptian desert Magick is at the basis of Druidic Magick. Boddhi, follow-up?
Shadow Walker:
what I see here is love as mechanisim as in the Egyptian asumption of god
forms. I love my god/dess I become my god/dess I do the work of my god/dess as
s/he would.
O'Dubhain: True! Whether we call this God,
"True Will", Goddess, or Magick it's all the same thing. SW....
follow-up?
Laura : Christ
said.. Know ye not that ye are sons and daughter of the most high. Translation
Every man and woman is a star.
O'Dubhain: Laura>
absolutely!
Skylark: Yes, that I was just reading the other day, that
Dion Fortune credits Jethro the Midianite (Moses' father in law) and the
Midianites w with teaching him magic. If I have the characters straight.
O'Dubhain: Skylark> That may have been where I read about
Moses and the Midianites... thanks <G> When the idea that Christ might be
someone's Druid first came to my attention, I asked myself this question,
"If it took 20 years to be a Druid then that would mean that one could not
actually start being a Druid until about the age of 30..." In the bible we
are told that Jesus was precocious in the Temple, showing wisdom beyond his
years and then he vanishes for 20 years! <G> What DO you suppose he was
doing? Where was he studying? What was he learning to do? Perhaps he was
learning Magicks and personal development in a fashion similar to that of the
Druids
Some people suggest that he studied in India during the
"lost years". Others say that he came to England with his uncle
Joseph of Arimathea. There is other evidence that he may have been an Essene, a
mystical cult of the desert. I personally think he would have gone to study in Alexandria
which was the center of learning for the entire ancient world. It is also my
opinion that the Druids were no strangers to the Library of Alexandria. They
spoke and read Greek, Latin, and Hebrew. and taught that in their schools or
"bangors". I'd like to cover additional topics about this subject in
the next workshop. In particular: Coptic Magical Practices based on the early
Gnostic literature and the Nag Hammadi text.
I would also like to get into a connection between the Holy
Grail, Druids, and the family of Jesus. Some
additional topics I would like to cover in detail next time are the
relationships between the Phoenicians, Fomorii, Firbolgs, Canaanites, and other
Sea Peoples. It is my belief that these Sea Peoples promoted the spread of
knowledge and Magick via their trade routes during this particular period of
history. I'd like to wind up this workshop for tonight... any additional
questions or comments or otherwise...
O'Dubhain: Just to sum it all up... It's
never been very hard for me to think of Moses or
Jesus as being the Druid type. Both these men
have the wisdom, Magick, and strength of Will/Love to change the world. Such is
the case with Druids. In fact, Merlin and Taliesin would probably not mind Charlton
Heston portraying them in a movie
<GGG>
Boddhi : <vbg>
O'Dubhain: Anyway....back to the book!
<GGG> Thanks to everyone for coming... Whoops! Missed the comment by
Skylark!
Skylark: Do you think those two (Merlin and Taliesin) will
ever be as widely recognized as Moses and Jesus?
O'Dubhain: I think that they will be
recognized more fully in the coming age
Boddhi : Thanks for seminar OD and thanks for reference
sources in Library..
O'Dubhain: as each of us is individually
empowered "to be a star".
Skylark: Thanks for an inspiring workshop!
O'Dubhain: It is the Power of the
Individual that the New Age of religions will promote. Céad
Míle Faíte!!!
"100,000 Welcomes."
O'Dubhain: The Workshop is over...next week
same time and place to continue our discussion of Christian/Drudic/Coptic/Gnostic/Thelemic
Magick!
********* 10/18/94
7:54 AM Forum CO *********
Celtic Workshop #30 - "Christ is My Druid", Part 2
Copyright Geimhreadh, 1994, Searles O'Dubhain, All Rights reserved
The Egyptian Connection
I tried to show that Celtic Magick and tradition is very
eclectic due to the many travels of the Celts themselves. The Druids studied
the techniques of the Coptics as well as the Egyptians. I attempted to show how
this could have been so by analyzing genealogies as well as Coptic Magical
techniques.
********* 10/24/94 10:01 PM Forum - Workshop/Seminar
*********
O'Dubhain: Tonight I thought we could
finish up some points from last week.
Last week we discussed many topics in this forum. One of
them was the possibility of Jesus being a Druid
or at least of him following Druidic teachings.
O'Dubhain: Another topic was on early Christian
(Coptic) Magicks and spells. Tonight I wanted to begin with a time line of the
traditional history of the Irish.... following the line of the Milesians (the
last tribe of Celts to invade Ireland).
Here is the genealogy of Mile and Amergin the Druid... We start in Scythia
many many years before the Common Era (BCE).
O'Dubhain: Feinus Farsaidh "King of Scythians" in
Syria 1700 BCE Niall (Of the Laungages), m. Scota (Daughter of King of the
Hyksos), Gadel, Esru, Sru, Eber Scott, Beogaman, Tat, Agnomon, Laimfionn,
Eibhear, Gluinfhionn, Adhnon, Fionn, Feibric Glas (Ebric), Neanual, Nuadha
Nuagatt (Niagatt), Alldod (Alluid), Earcada, Deagha (Deaghtha,) Bregon
(Bratha), "The Son of fire" Bille, Mile, born 1060 BCE (Golamh),
Amergin the Bard. The reason I bring this genealogy up is to pinpoint the
whereabouts of the Gaels, [according to the Lebor
Gabála] around the time of Exodus.
O'Dubhain: Also, I'd like to point out that Scota, the wife
of Niall, was the daughter of the Hyksos King of Egypt, and that traditionally
Niall "Of the Languages" was in Egypt at Alexandria to teach in the
school there He was teaching the sailors of the Hyksos king to speak the
languages of the seafaring nations of the Mediterranean. The wife of Mile is
also called Scota and she is the daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh. The Gaels
migrated to Ireland
around 1000 BCE. If one looks at this genealogy, a few pertinent facts are
observable.
The Celts were in Egypt
during the time of the Hyksos and therefore Exodus. They migrated from Egypt
to Spain via
the lands of the Mediterranean and North
Africa (sorry we're so slow typing... trying to find out how to
spell Mediterranean <G>)
O'Dubhain: In the genealogies that I have,
at least two of the names are discernable as Druids during this period. These
Druids are Cing, who lives at the time of Liam
Fionn and Amergin, who is well known to us
as one of the greatest bards of Ireland.
Since the Exodus is placed somewhere around the timeframe of 1500 BCE and Moses
was a member of the ruling family of Egypt
at that time, it is not inconceivable that he would have had contact with the
schools at Alexandria and the
Celts.
O'Dubhain: As we discussed last week, Egypt
is the land of Magick.
Marion&Jeremy:
I was wondering then if you were assuming that Moses
was an Egyptian rather than an Israelite? Or referring to his upbringing among
the "royals."
O'Dubhain: According to the bible, Moses
was found by the daughter of pharaoh and raised as her son... I'm assuming that
this means that he was of the royal house and afforded all available means of
education. There's a lot more to this than just that however, the Hyksos were
only temporarily rulers of Egypt.
In some histories they were defeated and driven out by the Egyptians. In other
histories they were paid a huge ransom and left. As with most histories, it
depends on who's writing the book as to what was said to happen <G>. Moses
was probably in all likelihood a Jew. Well my mind tends to question everything
so I keep asking myself... maybe he was a Hyksos or even a Gael <GGG> I'm
still toying with this idea <VBG> The lack of information is maddening I
don know that Moses is not only considered to be one of the patriarchs of the
tribe of Israel, but he is also considered to be one of the first Quabalists -
Cabalists - Kabalists (take your pick)
Marion&Jeremy:
Actually, Moses is _not_ one of the Jewish
patriarchs, but I am sort of nitpicking here. And I'll not quarrel about the
Kabalist bit, although I've not previously heard... Of claims to know where he
is buried... His resting place was left obscure on purpose.
The patriarchs are Abraham, Isaac,
and Jacob.
The matriarchs are their wives Sarah,
Rebecca, Leah,
and Rachel.
O'Dubhain: Your points are well taken. All
I was trying to say is that he was considered to be one of the chief leaders in
Jewish traditions. And as we all know, the Kabala says that scripture can be
interpreted on many levels with many hidden meanings.
As we also know, the Kabala was one of the biggest
influences on Magical thought in Western Civilization. Its roots can be traced
back to Moses and the period of Exodus. In fact,
Moses was one of the few people in the bible who
actually practices magick. Significantly, he usually does this while using his
staff which can do many Magickal things. The Egyptians were known throughout
the ancient world as masters of magick yet Moses
outmagicked the Egyptian magicians. A similar thing was said of the Celts. It
is my belief that the Druids of the Gaels studied the Egyptian Magicks while
they were in Egypt
at this time. There were two other Magickal groups in this area of the world
that I would like to reference at this time as well.
O'Dubhain: These two groups occur around
the beginning of the common era.
O'Dubhain: It is thought by some historians
that both Jesus and John
the Baptist were both members of the Essene cult. The writings of the Essenes
would seem to confirm this. These are known as The Dead Sea Scrolls.
O'Dubhain: I'm no biblical scholar, so I'm
not going to get into this area too deeply, but I would like to discuss the
Coptic sect. The Coptics existed before Christianity. They embraced a
philosophy as Gnosis. This word means "knowing" As with many other
groups that became Christianized, they included some of their previous beliefs
in their version of Christianity. I'm looking right now at a book called.
Ancient Christian Magic
- Coptic Texts of Ritual Power by Marvin
Meyer and Richard
Smith. In this book are many different
spells and invocations by ancient Coptics. Some of these date to 100 CE. I'd
like to give you a typical example from this book of a Coptic spell. (Looking
for a good one here <G>)I found it! It's kind of long... please bear with
us This is a spell invoking a "thundering power to perform every
wish" This spell invokes the entity "Petbe" whose name means
requiter:
Listen to me today, you who listen; listen to my words, you
who hear; incline your ear to me, quickly; listen to the words of [my] mouth,
since I call to you, quickly, that you may [hurry] to send to me, quickly and
immediately, and rouse [Pet]be, who is in the abyss, and raise up for [me]
Sachlabari, that he may come and accomplish my heart's wish and fulfill the
desire of my soul.
Yea, shake yourself
today with your power, Petbe, who is in the abyss; shake yourself today with
your power, Thunder, the true name of Petbe, since
I drag you up to ask
you, Horasias Phankapres, you whose front part looks [like] a lion, whose read
part looks like a bear, whose head is fixed in heaven, whose feet are fixed on
the earth, the big toes of whose feet are bound with the 2 rings of the abyss
(1,verso). For you are Shouth Mashouth
Selouch Malouch, the one with the head of bronze, the one with
the teeth of iron.
Yea, for I adjure you,
Niabathaba Betha Bethai Both, 7 times.
Yea, for I adjure
[you] [by] the first pillar that the father almighty established under the
[first] corner that is in heaven, that you may obey the things of my mouth, and
pursue the things of my hand, and accomplish for me the wish of my heart and
the desire of my soul, immediately, quickly, Horasias Phankapres.
I invoke you who lifts
up the two cherubim of light, Marioth, Gabriel, Amuath, the sun of the
underworld, that you obey the things of my mouth,a and pursue the things of my
hand, to take my case (?) before the presence of the father, who is bound with
the white belt at his waist, bound with the scarlet cord on his breast, (2,
recto) whose iron wand is in his right hand, who is addressed with the great
secret name, Hamouzeth Beth Athanabassetoni, whom the wind and the air and the
darkness obey.
Asamuth, I invoke your
true name 21 times, day and night, that you come and reveal yourself to me, and
accomplish for me the wish of my heart and the desire of my soul. . If you do
not obey the things of my mouth and pursue the things of my hand, I shall call
upon Salpiax, Pechiel, Sasmiasas, Mesemiasim, and the seventy gods, and Artemis
the mother of all the gods, and Apollo and Athena [and]
Kronos and Moira,
Pal[las and] Aphrodite, Dawn, Serapis, [Ura]nos: Seize him, bring him before me, to . . . [P]etbe, who is
in the abyss, yea, with the power . . . . Go, go, at once!
It is [done].
O'Dubhain: I presented this spell as an
example of Coptic magick to demonstrate a number of points. One is that
Ceremonial Magick is not a recent invention. It is truly an ancient art. And its
forms and sources of power have remained constant over the millennia Another
point is that the Coptic Christians used ceremonial magick.
O'Dubhain: I could list many other spells
which invoke angels and archangels as well as the elemental powers.... and even
God or Christ. This was the magickal environment in Egypt
both before and after the time of Jesus. I
mention the use of Ceremonial Magick during this period of history in Egypt
to support two points that I have made. In a previous workshop I used certain
sounds of power or "god names" to invoke Magical power. I'm referring
to the "IAO". It was my contention that the Druids used similar
sounds and god names in their rituals.
O'Dubhain: I contend that all magicks work
in a very similar manner and that the Druids were aware of both the current and
previous uses of magick and ceremonial magick.
O'Dubhain: This point is particularly valid
when one considers that the Druids most likely studied Magick in Egypt
during the travels of the Gaels. My other point was that many of the teaching
and magickal works of Jesus were very Druidic in
nature. The common factor in all these points is Egyptian Magick. ga Osiris
Osiris: Is it not possible
then................ that the Druids........as "collectors" of
Magick..... and users of the same.......... traveled far and wide......nay,
even invited and offered assistance to those seeking them............ in their
quest to perfect their magick? And is it not also possible............ that
today..........there are societies that honor and cherish their
positions................ and have taken measures to secure the druidic
traditions and memories?
O'Dubhain: Yes. I believe that not only are
they societies that do such things in today's world but that there are linked
chains of individuals that have passed/carried this type of knowledge down
through history. Esoterically speaking, I believe that it is possible for this
knowledge to be passed from entity to entity and not just from person to
person. It is also possible to pass this knowledge from lifetime to lifetime.
I'm referring to the process of reincarnation.
Osiris: | Excellent point!
O'Dubhain: Reincarnation was a vitally held
belief among Druids as well as early Christians. It is one of the fundamental
teachings of Gnosticism. The Coptic Christians followed the teachings of
Gnosis. Even some Popes supported the belief in reincarnation. This as well as
many other early beliefs were removed from the teachings of early Christianity
somewhere in the period of 300 CE to 800 CE. One of the other topics that I
wanted to discuss this evening was the many different incarnations of Christ.
O'Dubhain: I have an excellent book on the subject called
Lives of the Master - The Rest of the Jesus Story... by Glenn Sanderfur.
Osiris: Didn't Casey state that he worked directly with
Melchizedek as "his" assistant, in the building of the Pyramid of
Cheops?
O'Dubhain: Excellent point. In fact, the incarnation of
Jesus as Hermes is the one where Cayce worked with him on building the great
pyramid. Cayce's incarnation with him was as the being "Ra-Ta"
Osiris: Ah............yes!
O'Dubhain: This book maintains that both Jesus and John the
Baptist were initiated into a brotherhood in the great pyramid.
O'Dubhain: Some notable facts about some of the other
incarnations are, Amilius who was the first soul that came through to the earth
in spirit form only from God (or "The One")... Of course he
identifies Adam as the first "man". There are several others that
"never died" such as Enoch and Melchizedek. and one notable
incarnation was as Zend who was the father of Zoraster.
Osiris: I have seen reference (don't
remember where) that John the Baptist was to Jesus
as Merlin was to Arthur.
O'Dubhain: I'd be interested in reading those
references. The curse of a well read man …
Osiris: I will look for them.
O'Dubhain: The theme that runs through this
book is that there is one great soul that incarnates over and over again
throughout human history. The purpose of this soul, which is also identified as
"Logos" or the "Nous" or "Mind", is to guide the
spirits of humans back to The One. It does this by lighting the path and
providing enlightenment. This was another early Christian,
as well as Essene doctrine. It is also found in some Druidic teachings.
Trailstalker: There is a saying that "When the student
is ready... the teacher will appear".... Would this then hold true for the
human race as a whole... that when we are ready to progress and learn as a
race/species.... the Master will put in an appearance?
O'Dubhain: <rapidly thumbing through
reference materials> In Donald Michael Kraig's "Modern Magick", he
states that a truth presented to a student that is unprepared is the greatest
of lies. Wisdom is withheld from us until we are ready to receive it. as far as
whether or not this Master will incarnate once again, I cannot say. However, I
do know that John 14:26 says, "But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom
the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to
your remembrance all that I have said to you."
Osiris: So Mote It Be!
O'Dubhain: It is an old tradition in
Magickal ways that when the student is ready the teacher will come. I find in
my own work that this is particularly true. Books have a way of becoming
available or appearing on shelves just when I need to read them. <G> I
think if we all look at our own works that we would all know that this is true.
Osiris: It's a "Druid" thing isn't it O'D?
<G>
O'Dubhain: I've sometimes sensed that I'm being guided, but
I'm not making any RASH claims <VBG> It's been my personal experience.
And I think that any other magician that one meets would be able to point to
Otherworldly/spiritual intervention in their lives. After all, one of the major
tasks facing anyone who desires to work magick is getting in touch with one's
True Will, Oversoul, Holy Guardian Angel or Spiritual Guide, Higher Self. This
is a common thread that is found in most references on magick.
O'Dubhain: At this point, I've pretty much hit all the high
points of additional topics that I wished to discuss that were left from the
previous workshop. "Christ is My Druid" In this Samhain season, let
us all remember the souls that we have touched across the ages... and honor
them as the veils between the worlds are parted.
Osiris: So Mote It Be!
O'Dubhain: Biodh Se!
Marion&Jeremy:
Nos da, all.
O'Dubhain: next week I would like to
discuss the concept of Merlin. See everyone then.
Marion&Jeremy:
We must be off.
O'Dubhain: Have a glorious Samhain.
Marion&Jeremy:
Next Monday is Halloween.
Osiris: You betcha O'D!
O'Dubhain: Class may be postponed a
week.... if the online ritual is Monday night the 31st. I'll post a message.
O'Dubhain: Oiche mhaith dhuit!
Osiris: Fiat Lux!
********** 10/25/94
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